RTX 4090?

[Cupapi]

Hey, folks. I need to know your opinion. I have the RTX 4080. Is it worth going from the RTX 4080 to the RTX 4090? Especially in performance difference in gaming. The RTX 4080 is significantly weaker than the 4090, right? Will I be seriously shocked by the upgrade? Is it a mind-blowing leap in performance? I don't know if anyone here has personal experience with the 4080 and 4090. I'm really curious how big difference it is. I hope that I will be stunned with jump in FPS. I consider the RTX 4080 to be just a 1440p GPU. Otherwise, here's my setup:

R7 7800X3D
RTX 4080
64GB DDR5 6000mhz cl30
850w PSU
B650 TomaHawk
H150i Capellix XT
4TB SSD

Yeah I am quite sad about my specs. 7800X3D is great but missing 4090, the 4080 isn’t as good.

 

[P4-630]

Check this: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-4090-gaming-x-trio/31.html

 

[Mikael Andersson]

Hey, folks. I need to know your opinion. I have the RTX 4080. Is it worth going from the RTX 4080 to the RTX 4090? Especially in performance difference in gaming. The RTX 4080 is significantly weaker than the 4090, right? Will I be seriously shocked by the upgrade? Is it a mind-blowing leap in performance? I don't know if anyone here has personal experience with the 4080 and 4090. I'm really curious how big difference it is. I hope that I will be stunned with jump in FPS. I consider the RTX 4080 to be just a 1440p GPU. Otherwise, here's my setup:

R7 7800X3D
RTX 4080
64GB DDR5 6000mhz cl30
850w PSU
B650 TomaHawk
H150i Capellix XT
4TB SSD

Yeah I am quite sad about my specs. 7800X3D is great but missing 4090, the 4080 isn’t as good.

With the RTX 4090 having an affinity for burning up I think that you should wait for the RTX 5080 / RTX 5080 Ti.

 

[mama]

Hey, folks. I need to know your opinion. I have the RTX 4080. Is it worth going from the RTX 4080 to the RTX 4090? Especially in performance difference in gaming. The RTX 4080 is significantly weaker than the 4090, right? Will I be seriously shocked by the upgrade? Is it a mind-blowing leap in performance? I don't know if anyone here has personal experience with the 4080 and 4090. I'm really curious how big difference it is. I hope that I will be stunned with jump in FPS. I consider the RTX 4080 to be just a 1440p GPU. Otherwise, here's my setup:

R7 7800X3D
RTX 4080
64GB DDR5 6000mhz cl30
850w PSU
B650 TomaHawk
H150i Capellix XT
4TB SSD

Yeah I am quite sad about my specs. 7800X3D is great but missing 4090, the 4080 isn’t as good.

The 4080 is a seriously good card. You don't need a 4090. If you want to burn money go ahead.

 

[Hyderz]

stick with the 4080... its plenty fast then check out 50 series,

i know this feeling.. you have assembled your beast of a rig and you feel 4080 is not the top tier parts ... ive been there done that...
go ahead if you have spare cash... but once the 50 series comes you will be wanting more... so just be wise with your money...

 

[natr0n]

Yeah, mail me your old outdated 4080 and get the 4090 youll be glad you did...

 

[Klemc]

Try with the 7800x3d iGPU (APU) before, who knows, you'd prefer it over all other even inexisting thing ?!

 

[Countryside]

Is this a first of april joke or are you serious if so then simple answer is no need for an upgrade

 

[oxrufiioxo]

At 4k with RT maybe otherwise no. I own a 4090 and have played around with a 4080 super quite a bit and the uplift is only super noticeable in Pathtracing at 4k/1440p.

 

[gffermari]

With DLSS off, the 4090 is way ahead and can deliver 50-60fps in most scenarios.
Obviously I'm talking about the games with heavy RT or PT.

For example, the 4090 can deliver 60fps in Control/RT at 4K with no DLSS while the 4080 is at 40s.
Day and night difference but there are only a few cases like this which make ....some sense to want a 4090.

 

[Dragam1337]

This post just stinks of trolling... completely new account, made just to write a troll message...

 

[mxthunder]

I have both. The 4090 is a huge upgrade and makes a noticeable difference in most games if you are playing at 4K. I would say if you are at 1440p, no need to upgrade.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Mate, I have a 4080 and I play at 4K on an LG G3 OLED. I don't see the point in the 4090, and neither should you. Sure it's a bit faster but... big whatever, really. If you need to upgrade because of FOMO at least wait for Blackwell.

 

[Chrispy_]

Check the 4090's performance against the 4080's, specifically in the games you play and at the resolution/settings you use.

Yes, the 4090 is a fair bit faster than the 4080 but so many games in the last couple of years are coded like absolute shit and run into CPU bottlenecks or other poor optimisation problems, so throwing more GPU horsepower at it might not really achieve anything apart from a $2000 hole in your wallet.

If you're regularly playing games on the 4080 and getting 100% GPU usage at peak boost clocks, then yes - you're going to see an improvement. The value of that improvement is questionable to me because I don't think the game itself will suddenly become magically better by running at higher framerates, but this isn't a decision for me, it's a decision for you. I'm happy with 4K120 using tweaked high-ish settings and sometimes only getting 80fps. If you have the money to burn and want the extra performance in games where that extra performance actually exists, then go for it.

 

[DaemonForce]

Hey, folks. I need to know your opinion. I have the RTX 4080. Is it worth going from the RTX 4080 to the RTX 4090?

No. 4080 is meant to be the flagship. 4090 is just $$$$ premium overdrive.

Especially in performance difference in gaming.

No.

I consider the RTX 4080 to be just a 1440p GPU.

Here's the issue. Take your typical FPS tables of performance between 1080p, 2K and 4K. Whatever settings at medium, high and ultra. Whatever your targets (60/120/144/165FPS) and what you're getting at those resolutions and settings...Shift them over by one.
That's the expected gap and how I see the difference.
Benchmarks of games with those specific settings in mind tend to reflect that but check it out anyway.

 

[gffermari]

The 4080 if not even close to being the flagship.
When you have super, Ti, x90, x90Ti and Titan above it. Not all at once but at least 2-3 SKUs higher than the x80.

The 4090 is not an overpriced premium model like the 3090 or the Titans. For gaming at least.

(the 3090 and some of the Titans had some value for specific use cases)

 

[oxrufiioxo]

The 4080 if not even close to being the flagship.
When you have super, Ti, x90, x90Ti and Titan above it. Not all at once but at least 2-3 SKUs higher than the x80.

The 4090 is not an overpriced premium model like the 3090 or the Titans. For gaming at least.

(the 3090 and some of the Titans had some value for specific use cases)

I think the better way to look at it is that 600 ish usd is worth the extra 30% ish more performance.... For me it was because the difference was even less with most 4080 models being 1200 usd+ that I found worth owning. Some cards generation to generation don't even get a 30% increase in performance. On top of that there is a 50% increase in vram which probably won't end up actually making a difference but at least there will be nearly 0 concerns over the lifetime of the product.

Every buyer is different though some are willing to pay a premium to have the best gpu others are not the OP probably should have just purchased the 4090 to begin with so there was 0 chance of fomo at the same time some people payed nearly the same for a 4080 that you could purchase a base model 4090 for and are happy with it so it is what it is.

I'd be happy with either card but at 4k the difference is obvious between the two unlike the 3080 to 3090 that were hard to tell apart.

I'd be waiting for a 5090 if I owned a 4080 though upgrading in generation is probably not worth it unless a game you really want to play is struggling on the 4080 and the 4090 will get you over the hump.

 

[Dr. Dro]

The 4080 if not even close to being the flagship.
When you have super, Ti, x90, x90Ti and Titan above it. Not all at once but at least 2-3 SKUs higher than the x80.

The 4090 is not an overpriced premium model like the 3090 or the Titans. For gaming at least.

(the 3090 and some of the Titans had some value for specific use cases)

4080's supposed to fit in the same place the 3080 did. That's very much the "flagship" just below "halo" tier. The only thing above it are the 4090 and its mid-life Super refresh (the 4080 Super doesn't really count as it not only replaces the 4080 itself in the product stack, but it's less than 5% faster). A 4080 Ti doesn't exist, and this time there is no special "silent refresh" model like we had with the 3080-12G.

I'd be waiting for a 5090 if I owned a 4080 though upgrading in generation is probably not worth it unless a game you really want to play is struggling on the 4080 and the 4090 will get you over the hump.

I agree. Think i'll wait until Blackwell refresh if I don't end up just buying RDNA 4...

 

[faye]

Hey, folks. I need to know your opinion. I have the RTX 4080. Is it worth going from the RTX 4080 to the RTX 4090? Especially in performance difference in gaming. The RTX 4080 is significantly weaker than the 4090, right? Will I be seriously shocked by the upgrade? Is it a mind-blowing leap in performance? I don't know if anyone here has personal experience with the 4080 and 4090. I'm really curious how big difference it is. I hope that I will be stunned with jump in FPS. I consider the RTX 4080 to be just a 1440p GPU. Otherwise, here's my setup:

R7 7800X3D
RTX 4080
64GB DDR5 6000mhz cl30
850w PSU
B650 TomaHawk
H150i Capellix XT
4TB SSD

Yeah I am quite sad about my specs. 7800X3D is great but missing 4090, the 4080 isn’t as good.

Now is not the time. Wait.

 

[DaemonForce]

I haven't been team green in over 20 years and the whole power delivery issues with these cards puts me off big time. I would never drop anything more intense than like a 3080 in here and that would be with adapters, which is probably not a good idea either. Waiting for Blackwell is definitely tempting but I have a feeling that defacto price hikes will make the launch DOA. As for me:
Went Turks Pro with a HIS HD6570 in 2013.
Went Polaris 20 in 2018 at 2x MSRP.
Went Navi 31 this year at a steal.
I use a single 1080p144 display, sometimes a Surface 3 for a wireless display, sometimes and a 2K90 HMD. I'm good. You're probably just fine too.

 

[Dr. Dro]

I haven't been team green in over 20 years and the whole power delivery issues with these cards puts me off big time. I would never drop anything more intense than like a 3080 in here and that would be with adapters, which is probably not a good idea either. Waiting for Blackwell is definitely tempting but I have a feeling that defacto price hikes will make the launch DOA. As for me:
Went Turks Pro with a HIS HD6570 in 2013.
Went Polaris 20 in 2018 at 2x MSRP.
Went Navi 31 this year at a steal.
I use a single 1080p144 display, sometimes a Surface 3 for a wireless display, sometimes and a 2K90 HMD. I'm good. You're probably just fine too.

The "issues" are overblown. About as many 4090's failed as 7900 XTX's with the defective vapor chamber came out, aka an infinitesimal, inconsequential number of them. Almost no 4080's experienced issues even with the original 12VHPWR connector. Super cards should all have updated 12V-2x6 connectors and be immune by default. Regarding the 30 series, it's not a concern. All AIB boards use traditional 8-pin connectors and the FEs use an earlier "12-pin micro fit" connector. The sole exception is the RTX 3090 Ti, which was the first 12VHPWR card. Interestingly, 12VHPWR-related failures on 3090 Ti hardware were never reported to be widespread, or occur at all. Never read anything on 3090 Ti's catching smoke.

Looks like you only had the "crème" of AMD's GPUs... I pity the sorry gaming experience you've had all these years. Just not as rough as the pitiable fools like myself who had their flagships instead. The way they treated R9 Fury X and Vega FE owners... best not to mention it.

If you play on Windows... give Nvidia an honest try next generation. If you catch my meaning, Nvidia cards are boring, and boring is just how you want. If you're on Linux, then I retract the earlier statement and equally tell you stay away...

 

[purecain]

RTX4090 is a gtx1080 type GPU upgrade. It is simply in a different league... Amazing performance and smooth gameplay at the highest fidelity. With enough horsepower to play all the next AAA games without issue. Its worth the extra money for once...

 

[evernessince]

The "issues" are overblown. About as many 4090's failed as 7900 XTX's with the defective vapor chamber came out, aka an infinitesimal, inconsequential number of them. Almost no 4080's experienced issues even with the original 12VHPWR connector. Super cards should all have updated 12V-2x6 connectors and be immune by default. Regarding the 30 series, it's not a concern. All AIB boards use traditional 8-pin connectors and the FEs use an earlier "12-pin micro fit" connector. The sole exception is the RTX 3090 Ti, which was the first 12VHPWR card. Interestingly, 12VHPWR-related failures on 3090 Ti hardware were never reported to be widespread, or occur at all. Never read anything on 3090 Ti's catching smoke.

According to HWU's industry sources and repair shops that have contracted with board partners to repair cards with burnt connectors, the incident rate of burnt connectors on 4090s was significantly higher than any other RMA reason to the point where it significantly increased overall RMA rates. The revised adapters reduced those rates but one contracted shop is on record as still receiving 200+ burnt 4090s / month. Not terrible but still notably higher than other causes for RMAs. That's the revised adapter, I'd expect that number was significantly higher on the first design.

The 7900 XTX defective vapor chamber literally impacted a single batch of coolers, that's it. A single bad batch is not going to be comparable to a design flaw that impacts every 4090 and in particular cards with the 1st gen connector (a design flaw of which still isn't fully remedied). You are trying to weight them as if equal but they are anything but.



Now on to the OP's question as to whether they should upgrade to the 4090. IMO it's only "worth it" if you have money to blow or plan to use it heavily for work. Otherwise at 1440p it's 15% faster for 1.75x to 2.1x the money.

On top of that we are already more than half-way through this generation. You in essence want to upgrade to the card that is going to loose $700 - $900 in value in less than a year. That's considering that you are coming from a 4080, which was itself the poorest retainer of value from the entire 4000 series lineup since launch. Again the only frame of mind that makes sense to me in is either work or you have money to burn. If you have that kind of money to blow you might as well pickup a P5800X 800 GB as well for a cool 2K. After all it is by far the best storage for consumer workloads.

 

[Dr. Dro]

According to HWU's industry sources and repair shops that have contracted with board partners to repair cards with burnt connectors, the incident rate of burnt connectors on 4090s was significantly higher than any other RMA reason to the point where it significantly increased overall RMA rates. The revised adapters reduced those rates but one contracted shop is on record as still receiving 200+ burnt 4090s / month. Not terrible but still notably higher than other causes for RMAs. That's the revised adapter, I'd expect that number was significantly higher on the first design.

Not even 0.1% of cards in circulation, my point stands tbh. Considered that the 4090 actually sold better than the 4070 (all variants) and 4080 (all variants) + the entire RX 7900 series combined

 

[Toothless]

OP has been gone over a month. Pretty sure thread is moot at this point.