Intel Core i9-13900K "Raptor Lake" Tested Again, 30% Faster Than Predecessor in Cinebench R23

[btarunr]

Intel's upcoming Core i9-13900K "Raptor Lake" flagship desktop processor continues to amaze with its performance lead over the current i9-12900K "Alder Lake," in leaked benchmarks of the processor tested in a number of synthetic benchmarks. The 8P+16E hybrid processor posts a massive 30% lead in multi-threaded performance with Cinebench R23, thanks to higher IPC on the P-cores, the addition of 8 more E-cores, higher clock speeds, and larger caches all around. These gains are also noted with CPU-Z Bench, where the i9-13900K is shown posting a similar 30% lead over the i9-12900K.

In gaming benchmarks, these leads translate into a roughly-10-15 percent gain in frame-rates. Games still aren't too parallelized, Intel Thread Director localizes gaming workloads to the P-cores, which remain 8 in number. And so, the gaming performance gains boil down mainly to the IPC increase of the "Raptor Cove" P-cores, and their higher clock-speeds, compared to the 8 "Golden Cove" P-cores of the i9-12900K. From the looks of it, the i9-13900K will maintain a competitive edge over the upcoming AMD Ryzen 9 7950X mainly because the high IPC of 8 (sufficient) P-cores sees it through in gaming benchmarks, while the zerg-rush of 24 cores clinches the deal in multi-threaded benchmarks that scale across all cores.



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[Dirt Chip]

Multi seems just amazing on this one!
I might make a stretch and get the 13900 instead if the 13700 (or 7950).

Very happy I decided to wait till 2022 end to make the upgrade, skipping AL.

 

[ZoneDymo]

Multi seems just amazing on this one!
I might make a stretch and get the 13900 instead if the 13700 (or 7950).

Very happy I decided to wait till 2022 end to make the upgrade, skipping AL.

Wait, you are planning to upgrade from an i5 2400 to an 13900?

Unless you profile data is out of date that is a very odd upgrade path, like upgrading to a Ferrari from a Hyundai or something...

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Dear lord 380 watts...

 

[Pilgrim]

This means that it's still going to be around 30% slower than 7950X

 

[Dirt Chip]

Wait, you are planning to upgrade from an i5 2400 to an 13900?

Unless you profile data is out of date that is a very odd upgrade path, like upgrading to a Ferrari from a Hyundai or something...

Yep, I'm with the current build since 2011.
It can still do some casual gaming and premier pro 2022 and Lightroom but you can feel the age...
I can see you had a nice jump as well from SB to AL.

This means that it's still going to be around 300% slower than 7950X

you forgot a 0, I corrected it for you

 

[Crackong]

Hey the same test listed this
It clearly says MTP: (around) 440W

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[Hyderz]

Its pretty impressive that intel can pack 8 fast cores and 16 efficient cores into 1 die...
multicore perf is amazing... but i think intel really should make the cpu more power efficient and cooler..
but gaming perf compared to a 9900k the 13900k doesnt lead by that much

 

[Dirt Chip]

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I like the cyberpunk design

 

[spnidel]

can't wait for it to be 300% faster on power use

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

another plus to consider Raptor Lake is if them major vendors (ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte etc) pushes BIOS updates on the 600 Series board and not explicitly say that Raptor Lake only supports on the upcoming 700 Series Chipset boards. If that's the case, then Intel will probably be the more reasonable option to either build a new system or just upgrading from an older platform. Think about it; Raptor Lake supports DDR4, which are dirt cheap even for the high speed kits, backwards compatible with the Intel 600 Series Chipset boards (assuming they do support it, since it uses the same LGA1700 socket) and will probably have the same launch price as Alder Lake. Unless AMD start making their offerings a little bit more affordable and attainable, I don't see anyone willing to pay a premium for a bare-bone X670 board ($300+ based on MSI's pricing), a R5 7600X and a typical DDR5 RAM kit.

 

[1d10t]

where the i9-13900K is shown posting a similar 30% lead over the i9-12900K

Which one? Price or power consumption?

 

[low]

sooo 13900k => 12900k + 500w TDP + 8 ECores?

 

[ratirt]

Intel has to increase those ecores to stay competitive. How else they could tackle AMD's upcoming products. AMD gets by with just cores Intel needs two different, otherwise the MT performance would suffer too much. I really wonder, how would the 16pcore variant perform if the power could have been kept at bay. Do we know what the 13900k die size will be more less?

 

[AM4isGOD]

Intel has to increase those ecores to stay competitive. How else they could tackle AMD's upcoming products. AMD gets by with just cores Intel needs two different, otherwise the MT performance would suffer too much. I really wonder, how would the 16pcore variant perform if the power could have been kept at bay. Do we know what the 13900k die size will be more less?

The gaming performance gains boil down mainly to the IPC increase of the "Raptor Cove" P-cores.

Well the RL P cores seem to be doing pretty well, and however they increase the MT performance, does it really matter to someone who won't buy Intel anyway?

The only problem i can see with the 13900k is going to be the stupid power use. I guess if you have the cash to buy the top dog, you can cool it, or know how to tweak it to keep it in check. Same as AMD users under volting and keeping 90% of the performance, i guess the same can be done with this

 

[fevgatos]

Intel has to increase those ecores to stay competitive. How else they could tackle AMD's upcoming products. AMD gets by with just cores Intel needs two different, otherwise the MT performance would suffer too much. I really wonder, how would the 16pcore variant perform if the power could have been kept at bay. Do we know what the 13900k die size will be more less?

A 16p core could easily score 40k at 240w but the die size would be way bigger than the 13900k

Amd has to increase clocks and power consumption to stay competitive so...

Funny though, back when intel was increasing power and clocks while amd waa adding cores, people flamed intel. Now that the exact opposite is happening people still flame intel

 

[gffermari]

The cache increase in Raptor Lake has to be taken into consideration.
It may perform exceptionally better than Alder Lake because of that.

You cannot win in MT when the opponent has a truckload of cores no matter how weak they are.
Intel is at the right path and I really like the added e cores in the 13900K.
((it would be interesting if there was a cheaper model like a 13600 with 6p and 16 e cores))

The bad thing is that they are forced to increase the p cores frequency (and power usage) at ridiculous levels because of the 3Ds that are on the way.

 

[fevgatos]

Which one? Price or power consumption?

Neither, just performance

For power consumption increases check zen 4, got plenty of that, up to 60% more power.

The gaming performance gains boil down mainly to the IPC increase of the "Raptor Cove" P-cores.

Well the RL P cores seem to be doing pretty well, and however they increase the MT performance, does it really matter to someone who won't buy Intel anyway?

The only problem i can see with the 13900k is going to be the stupid power use. I guess if you have the cash to buy the top dog, you can cool it, or know how to tweak it to keep it in check. Same as AMD users under volting and keeping 90% of the performance, i guess the same can be done with this

You dont need to tweak it, at the same 240w it should be plenty faster than the 12900k. Im probably skipping this gen, dont really see the need right now, but its a decent upgrade over alderlake

 

[Dimitriman]

I'm loving this fight, this round of CPUs will possibly be the best scenario we have been in as consumers for 10 years. I remember how my 2600k was relevant all the way until Zen came out and brough some much needed competition. Now I hope intel and amd keeping pushing the envelope and releasing newer faster stuff every 6 months.. bring it on!

 

[Dirt Chip]

I'm loving this fight, this round of CPUs will possibly be the best scenario we have been in as consumers for 10 years. I remember how my 2600k was relevant all the way until Zen came out and brough some much needed competition. Now I hope intel and amd keeping pushing the envelope and releasing newer faster stuff every 6 months.. bring it on!

That's exactly the reason I choose to waited till now with my i5-2400

 

[Crackong]

Neither, just performance

For power consumption increases check zen 4, got plenty of that, up to 60% more power.

From the leak
There is a MTP increase from 241W to 440W (82.6% increase)

 

[ratirt]

The gaming performance gains boil down mainly to the IPC increase of the "Raptor Cove" P-cores.

Well the RL P cores seem to be doing pretty well, and however they increase the MT performance, does it really matter to someone who won't buy Intel anyway?

The only problem i can see with the 13900k is going to be the stupid power use. I guess if you have the cash to buy the top dog, you can cool it, or know how to tweak it to keep it in check. Same as AMD users under volting and keeping 90% of the performance, i guess the same can be done with this

It matters for you who buys or not only because you are just a consumer nothing else and you play games and that is basically it. I got 2 TR's for MT performance and from a work perspective, it is interesting for me how would those pcores work if there were 16 of them or more. I'm not gonna buy a CPU which is expensive and brings nothing to the game for me except I wont be called AMD fanboy buy you or others for instance since I have a different view and needs. Power use will always be a problem since there's a race for performance crown and the advancement in arch has a hiccup.

A 16p core could easily score 40k at 240w but the die size would be way bigger than the 13900k

Amd has to increase clocks and power consumption to stay competitive so...

Funny though, back when intel was increasing power and clocks while amd waa adding cores, people flamed intel. Now that the exact opposite is happening people still flame intel

257mm2 for 13900k? That is a bit. At 16p cores and 240watts I wonder what the frequency would have been. Not a lot though.
Intel is adding half cores not actual cores, so the situation is a bit different. Also, Intel has to add those cores since like you said, 16p cores would have been hard to tame and yet Intel has to stay competitive with AMD and they do not have ecores. I hope Intel will be competitive enough with all those ecores added.

Neither, just performance

For power consumption increases check zen 4, got plenty of that, up to 60% more power

Intel increased power consumption drastically with AL and something tells me with RL it is not going to drop but increase instead. The question remains, how much of an increase over AL.
AMD increased TDP and that is a bit different.

 

[Dirt Chip]

I hope that whoever is going to make the reviews of RL vs. ZEN4 will add and iso power test in order to set everyone mind on the TDP, MTP and other W matters.

 

[beedoo]

A 16p core could easily score 40k at 240w but the die size would be way bigger than the 13900k

Amd has to increase clocks and power consumption to stay competitive so...

Funny though, back when intel was increasing power and clocks while amd waa adding cores, people flamed intel. Now that the exact opposite is happening people still flame intel

Your posts are always so predictable... just saying.

 

[fevgatos]

From the leak
There is a MTP increase from 241W to 440W (82.6% increase)

Uhm, im pretty sure 440 is not stock settings,

257mm2 for 13900k? That is a bit. At 16p cores and 240watts I wonder what the frequency would have been. Not a lot though.
Intel is adding half cores not actual cores, so the situation is a bit different. Also, Intel has to add those cores since like you said, 16p cores would have been hard to tame and yet Intel has to stay competitive with AMD and they do not have ecores. I hope Intel will be competitive enough with all those ecores added.



Intel increased power consumption drastically with AL and something tells me with RL it is not going to drop but increase instead. The question remains, how much of an increase over AL.
AMD increased TDP and that is a bit different.

What do you mean hard to tame? In terms of temps or wattage it would be way easier to take than the 13900k.

No, intel did not drastically increase power consumption with ald. Actually, intel has drastically increased power consumption for like, 5 years now. 9900k was already boosting to 180w back in 2018, the 9900ks was at 200, the 10900k was at 240w more than 2 years ago.

The only one that did actually increased power draw is amd. Thats a fact

 

[Crackong]

Uhm, im pretty sure 440 is not stock settings

Dunno
Maybe or Maybe not
Afterall this is just a 'leak'